and have given spiritual aid to people in prison for many years. Mr. Kammerer has been the executive secretary of the Christian Science Committee for Institutional Service for the State of New York, and Mrs. Bittel is chairman. They are both Christian Science practitioners.
Mrs. Bittel: My purpose is to take the understanding of Christ where it's most needed and to expect a receptive thought. So I have never felt fear or apprehension or repulsion or anything like that.
Mr. Kammerer: The first prison I went into was the one at Rikers Island in New York, at that time a penitentiary. I went, rather in awe, to see what was going on and how bad it was, expecting to run into people who were vicious. To my surprise, most of them seemed quite like people we run into on the outside. And I've been active in sixteen different institutions, from the maximum security type, where the gates clang behind you as you go in, to a prison like Walkill, which is almost like a school, where they have no cells.